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Thucydides, son of Melesias

Thucydides, son of Melesias (; Greek: Θουκυδίδης) was a prominent politician of ancient Athens and the leader for a number of years of the powerful conservative faction. While it is likely he is related to the later historian and general Thucydides, son of Olorus, the details are uncertain; maternal grandfather and grandson fits the available evidence.

Life and political career

Thucydides was born in the deme of Alopeke (Ἀλωπεκή) of Athens. The exact year of his birth is unknown, but his family was noble and he was a relative of Cimon, the charismatic general and leader of the conservative party. After Cimon's death, he succeeded him in the leadership of the conservatives and decided to exert a vehement opposition against Pericles, who was leading Athens at the time.

Thucydides represented the thorough-going conservative party at Athens; their views are most clearly represented by "the Old Oligarch" in his Constitution of the Athenians, which has come down to us among the works of Xenophon.[1] Donald Kagan suggests that Thucydides' ultimate goal, which he could not state openly as doing so would alienate the pro-democratic majority, was to roll back the constitutional changes made by Ephialtes, reinstating the more aristocratic and conservative government that had prevailed in Cimon's day.[2]

Thucydides' political strength reached its peak in the wake of the

  • Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers
  • Encyclopedia 21st Century, Volume 18, "Thucydides" (in Greek)
  • Encyclopedia The Helios (in Greek)
  • Kagan, Donald. The Outbreak of the Peloponnesian War (Cornell, 1969). ISBN 0-8014-9556-3
  • Plutarch, Pericles


  1. ^ a b Donald Kagan, The Outbreak of the Peloponnesian War, 138
  2. ^ Kagan, The Outbreak of the Peloponnesian War, 136
  3. ^ Plutarch, Pericles 11.2
  4. ^ e.g., A. Andrewes, "The Opposition to Pericles", Journal of Hellenic Studies 98 (1978): "These chapters of Plutarch [Pericles 11-12, 14] seem to me false to the feeling of mid-century Athens about the empire...; they are no good guide to the character or policy of Thucydides" (p. 5).
  5. ^ a b Plutarch, , XIVPericles
  6. ^ Encyclopedia The Helios (in Greek)
  7. ^ Encyclopedia 21st Century, Volume 18, "Thucydides" (in Greek)
  8. ^ Diogenes Laërtius, Lives of Eminent Philosophers II, 12


While in Athens, Thucydides is also said to have accused Pericles' personal friend, Anaxagoras, of atheism and sympathy for the Persians.[8]

After being ostracized, Thucydides is said to have traveled to Sybaris, a city of Magna Graecia on the Gulf of Taranto in Italy, or Aegina, but this is unconfirmed.[7]

In 444 BC, the conservative and the democratic parties confronted each other in a fierce battle. Though some modern scholars doubt[4] the details of Plutarch's account, according to Plutarch, Thucydides, the new leader of the conservatives, accused Pericles, the leader of the democrats, of profligacy, criticizing the way Pericles spent the money for his ambitious building plan. Thucydides managed to incite the passions of the Athenian Assembly in his favor, but when Pericles took the floor, the atmosphere immediately changed. Pericles proposed to pay for all the construction from his own purse, under the term that all these monuments would belong to him and not to Athens. The public applauded his stance and Thucydides suffered an unexpected defeat from the charismatic orator.[5] As a result of his failure in confronting Pericles, Thucydides was ostracized for ten years, in 442 BC, and Pericles once again stood unchallenged in the Athenian political arena. Plutarch relates[5] that, when Thucydides was asked by Sparta's king, Archidamus II, if he or Pericles was a better fighter, Thucydides answered without any hesitation that Pericles was a better fighter, because, even when he is defeated, he achieves to convince the audience that he won.[6]

[1] Kagan asserts that this tactic helped Thucydides mount a concerted opposition to Pericles which brought to light ideological differences among Pericles' supporters.[3]

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